Smart people get it. The value of Polyamory!
"He was
open about his love affairs to his wife, lost much
of his prize money in bad investments and was a much more
devoted father than previously thought."
And as it is like me "But he was aware of his weaknesses. 'He was not capable
of long and stable relations with a woman and he actually expressed that in a
letter to the son of a friend who died,' said Prof Gutfreund. Einstein wrote:
"What I admire in your father is that, for his whole life, he stayed with only
one woman. This is a project in which I grossly failed, twice."
But also I can say I had a lady that barfed then took me to a gay bar on
the first date! It's just a matter of value, I tend to be the healer in the relationships!
Poly looks good in that light. For me it fits, love is not finite!
of his prize money in bad investments and was a much more
devoted father than previously thought."
And as it is like me "But he was aware of his weaknesses. 'He was not capable
of long and stable relations with a woman and he actually expressed that in a
letter to the son of a friend who died,' said Prof Gutfreund. Einstein wrote:
"What I admire in your father is that, for his whole life, he stayed with only
one woman. This is a project in which I grossly failed, twice."
But also I can say I had a lady that barfed then took me to a gay bar on
the first date! It's just a matter of value, I tend to be the healer in the relationships!
Poly looks good in that light. For me it fits, love is not finite!
Really I am not surprised Einstein and Bertrand Russell worked together
Bertrand Russell also was involved with some "Open Marriages."
"During this period, Russell had passionate (and often simultaneous)
affairs with a number of women, including Lady Ottoline Morrell and
the actress Lady Constance."
I cleanly see it. It's about love and support. Would Einstein been able to push out
the theory of relativity and other works without them?
A good lover makes a great person in all! So really it was Einstein's loves
that are the cause of the theory of relativity. Well in my view! I understand it!
that are the cause of the theory of relativity. Well in my view! I understand it!
~~~~~Letters reveal relative truth of Einstein's family life.
He was the 20th century's greatest scientist, his name synonymous
with genius.
But while Albert Einstein's theories are known and lauded the world over,
insights into his private life are patchy and largely negative.
He has been variously portrayed as a bad father, cruel to his wives and an adulterer.
But that view could now change. Spanning more than 3,500 pages, a newly released
set of Einstein's personal correspondence provides new clues into the character of the
Nobel Prize-winning scientist. He was open about his love affairs to his wife, lost much
of his prize money in bad investments and was a much more devoted father
than previously thought.
According to Hanoch Gutfreund of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, who is chairman
of the Albert Einstein Worldwide Exhibition, the new letters shatter myths that the great
scientist was always cold towards his family.
"Anybody who wants to write a new biography of Einstein will have an additional
resource to take into account. As a result of that, certain chapters in his life will now
emerge in a slightly different light than before," said Prof Gutfreund.
Einstein became known as one of the greatest physicists of all time after publishing
the theory of special relativity in 1905 and a theory of gravity known as general relativity
in 1916. He also made significant contributions to quantum mechanics and cosmology.
In 1921, he was awarded the Nobel Prize for physics and has since become most
famous for his equation showing the relationship between mass and energy: E=MC2
Einstein was married twice, to Mileva Maric from 1903 until 1919 and to his cousin Elsa
from 1919 until her death in 1936. Previously released letters suggested that his first
marriage was miserable, and that he cheated on Elsa with his secretary,
Betty Neumann. Prof Gutfreund said that though Einstein's marriage to Elsa
was best described as one of convenience, he wrote to her constantly, describing,
among other things, his experiences touring and lecturing.
"The general concept from everything we knew before was that he was a poor
father, that he did not meet his responsibility to his children and that he was quite
cruel to his wife," he said.
When he wanted a divorce from his first wife, Einstein gave her the ultimatum that,
if she wanted to remain with him and not grant him a divorce, then he expected her
to serve him three meals a day in his room but not expect any intimacy in return.
"From the documents we have now, a different picture emerges,"
said Prof Gutfreund. "He does show empathy and compassion."
There is evidence that he diverted part of his winnings from the 1921 Nobel Prize
into providing for Mileva and his children. He invested the rest in Europe and
America and lost much of it during the Great Depression.
Einstein was surprisingly candid to Elsa about his extramarital affairs.
Between the mid 1920s and his emigration to the US in 1933, there were
several women in his life: a Margarete, an Estella, two women called Toni and
an Ethel. He shared holidays with them, read books and attended concerts.
In a letter to Elsa, he said women were chasing him, showering him with unwanted
attention. But he was aware of his weaknesses. "He was not capable of long and
stable relations with a woman and he actually expressed that in a letter to the son
of a friend who died," said Prof Gutfreund. Einstein wrote:
"What I admire in your father is that, for his whole life, he stayed with only
one woman. This is a project in which I grossly failed, twice."
"If one talks about Einstein in love, his most consistent love from beginning
to end was science," said Prof Gutfreund.
Another apparent difficulty for Einstein was his relationship to his
schizophrenic son, Eduard. "He refers [in previously known letters]
to Eduard as maybe it would have been better if he would not have been born,"
said Prof Gutfreund. However, in the new letters Einstein writes of his pleasure in
receiving poems, pictures and notes from him. Einstein wrote to friends:
"The more refined of my sons, the one I considered really of my own nature,
was seized by an incurable mental illness."
Einstein was much closer to Elsa's daughter, Margot. He wrote: "I love her
[Margot] as much as if she were my own daughter, perhaps even more so,
since who knows what kind of brat she would have become [had I fathered her]."
The 1,300 letters, which span from 1912 to Einstein's death in 1955, have been in
storage at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, shielded from the public in
accordance with Margot's request that they be locked away for 20 years after
her death. Margot died in July 1986.
Though the letters do not concern Einstein's theories, he does mention his
weariness at being continually associated with his work.
"Soon I'll be fed up with the relativity," he wrote to Elsa.
"Even such a thing fades away when one is too involved with it."
Extracts: 'Soon I'll be fed up with the relativity'
Albert Einstein wrote to his wife Elsa almost every day and often to his
stepdaughter Margot
To Elsa, from Prague, January 8 1921
My lectures here ... are already behind me. This morning quartet very beautiful,
like old times. The first violin is played by a youth of 80 years!
Soon I'll be fed up with the relativity. Even such a thing fades away when one
is too involved with it ...
To Margot, from Oxford. May 8 1931
(Members of Einstein's extended family were used to his involvement with two or
three women, but had complained about the new additions to his harem.)
This time I'm writing you because you are the most reasonable
[member of the family], and the poor mother [Elsa is] already completely
meschugge. It is true that M. followed me and her chasing after me is
getting out of control. But firstly I could hardly avoid it, and secondly,
when I see her, I will tell her that she should vanish immediately ...
Out of all the dames I am in fact attached only to Mrs L who is
absolutely harmless.
To Elsa
Mrs M definitely acted according to the best Christian-Jewish ethics: 1)
one should do what one enjoys and what won't harm anyone else; and 2)
one should refrain from doing things one does not take delight in and which annoy
another person. Because of 1) she came with me, and because of 2)
she didn't tell you a word.
To Elsa from Kiel. June 11 1933
(Elsa managed the financial affairs. From the moment Einstein became famous,
she recognised his handwritten manuscripts would be a source of income.
This letter was written when Einstein was working on the improvement of the
gyroscope compass for the Anschuetz Company. Hermann Anschuetz had provided
him with an apartment where he was shielded from the public.)
I don't want to have the Warburgs bothered with my manuscript, and much less
Haldane. I don't mind having it sold, but without molesting any prominent people.
Thank goodness one cannot sell my skin during my lifetime ...
Here there is blessed calm. No one is allowed to ... claim any rights on me.
Anschuetz admires me for my abstaining from smoking, and I admire myself, too.
In front of my window [are] trees and water, chirping birds.
Nothing unexpected occurs, everything quiet and comfortable as if arranged for
contemplative musing.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2006/jul/11/internationalnews
~~~~~Einstein admitted he spent time with six other women while married.
Albert Einstein had half a dozen girlfriends and told his wife they showered him with
"unwanted" affection, according to letters released on Monday that shed light on
his extramarital affairs. The wild-haired Jewish-German scientist, renowned for his
theory of relativity, spent little time at home. He lectured in Europe and in the
United States, where he died in 1955 at age 76.
But Einstein wrote hundreds of letters to his family.
Previously released letters suggested his marriage in 1903 to his first wife
Mileva Maric, mother of his two sons, was miserable.
They divorced in 1919, and he soon married his cousin, Elsa.
He cheated on her with his secretary, Betty Neumann.
In the new volume of letters released on Monday by Hebrew University in Jerusalem,
Einstein described about six women with whom he spent time and from whom he
received gifts while being married to Elsa.
In the early 1980s, Elsa's daughter, Margot, gave almost 1,400 letters to
Hebrew University, which Einstein helped found. But Margot directed that the letters
not be released publicly until 20 years after her death. She died on July 8, 1986.
Some of the women identified by Einstein include Estella, Ethel, Toni and his
"Russian spy lover," Margarita. Others are referred to only by initials, like M. and L.
"It is true that M. followed me (to England) and her chasing after me is getting
out of control," he wrote in a letter to Margot in 1931.
"Out of all the dames, I am in fact attached only to Mrs. L.,
who is absolutely harmless and decent."
In another post to Margot, Einstein asked his stepdaughter to pass on "a little letter
for Margarita, to avoid providing curious eyes with tidbits."
Barbara Wolff of the Hebrew University’s Albert Einstein Archives said that the
persistent M. was Berlin socialite Ethel Michanowski, who was involved with
Einstein in the late 1920s and early ’30s. Wolff described their relationship as an affair,
but she disclosed little else about Michanowski, other than that she was about
15 years younger than Einstein and was friendly with his stepdaughters.
The new batch of letters for the first time included replies from Einstein's family,
said Hanoch Gutfreund, chairman of the Albert Einstein Worldwide Exhibition at
Hebrew University. This, he told reporters, helped shatter myths that the
Nobel Prize-winning scientist was always cold toward his family.
"In these letters he acts with much greater friendship and understanding to
Mileva and his sons," Gutfreund said. Gutfreund said that though Einstein's later
marriage to Elsa was best described as a "marriage of convenience," he wrote to her
almost every day, describing, among other things, his experiences touring and
lecturing in Europe. "Soon I'll be fed up with the (theory of) relativity,"
Einstein wrote in a postcard to Elsa in 1921. "Even such a thing fades away when
one is too involved with it."
Einstein lived and studied in the 1930s at Oxford, where he hid from the Nazis.
A German colleague, he said in a letter to Elsa, had told him "to not even come near
the German border because the rage against me is out of control."
In the same letter, which he wrote in 1933, less than a decade before the start of
World War II and the Nazi Holocaust, Einstein writes: "One fears everywhere the
competition of the expelled 'brainy' Jews. We are even more burdened by our strength
than by our weakness."
The main outlines of Einstein's professional and personal life have been long known
through biographies and previously released letters.
But by filling in some of the gaps in correspondence, the newly released documents have
“added colors to the image we had of Einstein before,” Wolff said.
“Now we have a high-resolution picture,” she said.
The letters also provide the full story of Einstein’s prize money for the 1921 Nobel Prize
in physics. Under the terms of his divorce from Mileva Maric, the entire sum was have
been deposited in a Swiss bank account, and Maric was to draw on the interest for
herself and the couple’s two sons, Hans Albert and Eduard.
It has been known for some time that there was a problem with Einstein’s discharge
of the agreement, but the details weren’t clear. The new correspondence shows he
invested most of it in the U.S., where he settled after being driven out of Germany,
and much of it was lost in the Great Depression.
This caused great friction with Maric, who felt betrayed because he didn’t deposit
the entire sum as agreed, and repeatedly had to ask him for money, Wolff said.
Ultimately, he paid her more money than he received with the prize, she added.
The prize was worth about $28,000 in 1921 dollars, a sum that would be worth
10 times that amount in today’s dollars.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/13804030/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/new-letters-shed-light-einsteins-love-life
But while Albert Einstein's theories are known and lauded the world over,
insights into his private life are patchy and largely negative.
He has been variously portrayed as a bad father, cruel to his wives and an adulterer.
But that view could now change. Spanning more than 3,500 pages, a newly released
set of Einstein's personal correspondence provides new clues into the character of the
Nobel Prize-winning scientist. He was open about his love affairs to his wife, lost much
of his prize money in bad investments and was a much more devoted father
than previously thought.
According to Hanoch Gutfreund of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, who is chairman
of the Albert Einstein Worldwide Exhibition, the new letters shatter myths that the great
scientist was always cold towards his family.
"Anybody who wants to write a new biography of Einstein will have an additional
resource to take into account. As a result of that, certain chapters in his life will now
emerge in a slightly different light than before," said Prof Gutfreund.
Einstein became known as one of the greatest physicists of all time after publishing
the theory of special relativity in 1905 and a theory of gravity known as general relativity
in 1916. He also made significant contributions to quantum mechanics and cosmology.
In 1921, he was awarded the Nobel Prize for physics and has since become most
famous for his equation showing the relationship between mass and energy: E=MC2
Einstein was married twice, to Mileva Maric from 1903 until 1919 and to his cousin Elsa
from 1919 until her death in 1936. Previously released letters suggested that his first
marriage was miserable, and that he cheated on Elsa with his secretary,
Betty Neumann. Prof Gutfreund said that though Einstein's marriage to Elsa
was best described as one of convenience, he wrote to her constantly, describing,
among other things, his experiences touring and lecturing.
"The general concept from everything we knew before was that he was a poor
father, that he did not meet his responsibility to his children and that he was quite
cruel to his wife," he said.
When he wanted a divorce from his first wife, Einstein gave her the ultimatum that,
if she wanted to remain with him and not grant him a divorce, then he expected her
to serve him three meals a day in his room but not expect any intimacy in return.
"From the documents we have now, a different picture emerges,"
said Prof Gutfreund. "He does show empathy and compassion."
There is evidence that he diverted part of his winnings from the 1921 Nobel Prize
into providing for Mileva and his children. He invested the rest in Europe and
America and lost much of it during the Great Depression.
Einstein was surprisingly candid to Elsa about his extramarital affairs.
Between the mid 1920s and his emigration to the US in 1933, there were
several women in his life: a Margarete, an Estella, two women called Toni and
an Ethel. He shared holidays with them, read books and attended concerts.
In a letter to Elsa, he said women were chasing him, showering him with unwanted
attention. But he was aware of his weaknesses. "He was not capable of long and
stable relations with a woman and he actually expressed that in a letter to the son
of a friend who died," said Prof Gutfreund. Einstein wrote:
"What I admire in your father is that, for his whole life, he stayed with only
one woman. This is a project in which I grossly failed, twice."
"If one talks about Einstein in love, his most consistent love from beginning
to end was science," said Prof Gutfreund.
Another apparent difficulty for Einstein was his relationship to his
schizophrenic son, Eduard. "He refers [in previously known letters]
to Eduard as maybe it would have been better if he would not have been born,"
said Prof Gutfreund. However, in the new letters Einstein writes of his pleasure in
receiving poems, pictures and notes from him. Einstein wrote to friends:
"The more refined of my sons, the one I considered really of my own nature,
was seized by an incurable mental illness."
Einstein was much closer to Elsa's daughter, Margot. He wrote: "I love her
[Margot] as much as if she were my own daughter, perhaps even more so,
since who knows what kind of brat she would have become [had I fathered her]."
The 1,300 letters, which span from 1912 to Einstein's death in 1955, have been in
storage at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, shielded from the public in
accordance with Margot's request that they be locked away for 20 years after
her death. Margot died in July 1986.
Though the letters do not concern Einstein's theories, he does mention his
weariness at being continually associated with his work.
"Soon I'll be fed up with the relativity," he wrote to Elsa.
"Even such a thing fades away when one is too involved with it."
Extracts: 'Soon I'll be fed up with the relativity'
Albert Einstein wrote to his wife Elsa almost every day and often to his
stepdaughter Margot
To Elsa, from Prague, January 8 1921
My lectures here ... are already behind me. This morning quartet very beautiful,
like old times. The first violin is played by a youth of 80 years!
Soon I'll be fed up with the relativity. Even such a thing fades away when one
is too involved with it ...
To Margot, from Oxford. May 8 1931
(Members of Einstein's extended family were used to his involvement with two or
three women, but had complained about the new additions to his harem.)
This time I'm writing you because you are the most reasonable
[member of the family], and the poor mother [Elsa is] already completely
meschugge. It is true that M. followed me and her chasing after me is
getting out of control. But firstly I could hardly avoid it, and secondly,
when I see her, I will tell her that she should vanish immediately ...
Out of all the dames I am in fact attached only to Mrs L who is
absolutely harmless.
To Elsa
Mrs M definitely acted according to the best Christian-Jewish ethics: 1)
one should do what one enjoys and what won't harm anyone else; and 2)
one should refrain from doing things one does not take delight in and which annoy
another person. Because of 1) she came with me, and because of 2)
she didn't tell you a word.
To Elsa from Kiel. June 11 1933
(Elsa managed the financial affairs. From the moment Einstein became famous,
she recognised his handwritten manuscripts would be a source of income.
This letter was written when Einstein was working on the improvement of the
gyroscope compass for the Anschuetz Company. Hermann Anschuetz had provided
him with an apartment where he was shielded from the public.)
I don't want to have the Warburgs bothered with my manuscript, and much less
Haldane. I don't mind having it sold, but without molesting any prominent people.
Thank goodness one cannot sell my skin during my lifetime ...
Here there is blessed calm. No one is allowed to ... claim any rights on me.
Anschuetz admires me for my abstaining from smoking, and I admire myself, too.
In front of my window [are] trees and water, chirping birds.
Nothing unexpected occurs, everything quiet and comfortable as if arranged for
contemplative musing.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2006/jul/11/internationalnews
~~~~~Einstein admitted he spent time with six other women while married.
Albert Einstein had half a dozen girlfriends and told his wife they showered him with
"unwanted" affection, according to letters released on Monday that shed light on
his extramarital affairs. The wild-haired Jewish-German scientist, renowned for his
theory of relativity, spent little time at home. He lectured in Europe and in the
United States, where he died in 1955 at age 76.
But Einstein wrote hundreds of letters to his family.
Previously released letters suggested his marriage in 1903 to his first wife
Mileva Maric, mother of his two sons, was miserable.
They divorced in 1919, and he soon married his cousin, Elsa.
He cheated on her with his secretary, Betty Neumann.
In the new volume of letters released on Monday by Hebrew University in Jerusalem,
Einstein described about six women with whom he spent time and from whom he
received gifts while being married to Elsa.
In the early 1980s, Elsa's daughter, Margot, gave almost 1,400 letters to
Hebrew University, which Einstein helped found. But Margot directed that the letters
not be released publicly until 20 years after her death. She died on July 8, 1986.
Some of the women identified by Einstein include Estella, Ethel, Toni and his
"Russian spy lover," Margarita. Others are referred to only by initials, like M. and L.
"It is true that M. followed me (to England) and her chasing after me is getting
out of control," he wrote in a letter to Margot in 1931.
"Out of all the dames, I am in fact attached only to Mrs. L.,
who is absolutely harmless and decent."
In another post to Margot, Einstein asked his stepdaughter to pass on "a little letter
for Margarita, to avoid providing curious eyes with tidbits."
Barbara Wolff of the Hebrew University’s Albert Einstein Archives said that the
persistent M. was Berlin socialite Ethel Michanowski, who was involved with
Einstein in the late 1920s and early ’30s. Wolff described their relationship as an affair,
but she disclosed little else about Michanowski, other than that she was about
15 years younger than Einstein and was friendly with his stepdaughters.
The new batch of letters for the first time included replies from Einstein's family,
said Hanoch Gutfreund, chairman of the Albert Einstein Worldwide Exhibition at
Hebrew University. This, he told reporters, helped shatter myths that the
Nobel Prize-winning scientist was always cold toward his family.
"In these letters he acts with much greater friendship and understanding to
Mileva and his sons," Gutfreund said. Gutfreund said that though Einstein's later
marriage to Elsa was best described as a "marriage of convenience," he wrote to her
almost every day, describing, among other things, his experiences touring and
lecturing in Europe. "Soon I'll be fed up with the (theory of) relativity,"
Einstein wrote in a postcard to Elsa in 1921. "Even such a thing fades away when
one is too involved with it."
Einstein lived and studied in the 1930s at Oxford, where he hid from the Nazis.
A German colleague, he said in a letter to Elsa, had told him "to not even come near
the German border because the rage against me is out of control."
In the same letter, which he wrote in 1933, less than a decade before the start of
World War II and the Nazi Holocaust, Einstein writes: "One fears everywhere the
competition of the expelled 'brainy' Jews. We are even more burdened by our strength
than by our weakness."
The main outlines of Einstein's professional and personal life have been long known
through biographies and previously released letters.
But by filling in some of the gaps in correspondence, the newly released documents have
“added colors to the image we had of Einstein before,” Wolff said.
“Now we have a high-resolution picture,” she said.
The letters also provide the full story of Einstein’s prize money for the 1921 Nobel Prize
in physics. Under the terms of his divorce from Mileva Maric, the entire sum was have
been deposited in a Swiss bank account, and Maric was to draw on the interest for
herself and the couple’s two sons, Hans Albert and Eduard.
It has been known for some time that there was a problem with Einstein’s discharge
of the agreement, but the details weren’t clear. The new correspondence shows he
invested most of it in the U.S., where he settled after being driven out of Germany,
and much of it was lost in the Great Depression.
This caused great friction with Maric, who felt betrayed because he didn’t deposit
the entire sum as agreed, and repeatedly had to ask him for money, Wolff said.
Ultimately, he paid her more money than he received with the prize, she added.
The prize was worth about $28,000 in 1921 dollars, a sum that would be worth
10 times that amount in today’s dollars.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/13804030/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/new-letters-shed-light-einsteins-love-life
